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		<title>Comment on Earning logics. Building a comprehensive list by free mahjong</title>
		<link>http://futurecase.wordpress.com/2008/05/31/earning-logics-building-a-comprehensive-list/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>free mahjong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subject of your post is very interesting, bookmarked, regards hlonkoburg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subject of your post is very interesting, bookmarked, regards hlonkoburg</p>
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		<title>Comment on Earning logics. Building a comprehensive list by True Blood s02e13</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Blood s02e13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, i like your blog theme, content is very interesting, bookmarked, regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, i like your blog theme, content is very interesting, bookmarked, regards</p>
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		<title>Comment on Earning logics. Building a comprehensive list by earn online</title>
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		<dc:creator>earn online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your content is very interesting, bookmarked
regards khhudf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your content is very interesting, bookmarked<br />
regards khhudf</p>
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		<title>Comment on Personal Fact Sheet Kees Winkel by Johannes Rossenaar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johannes Rossenaar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keessie-Bassie,


Verdomme Cees, wie schets mijn verbazing,ben je ineens mediadocent.
Leuk!!
Natuurlijk die Noord-Zuidlijn een disaster, maar voor jouw exposure wel lekker!!

Laat als je dit ziet/leest wat horen s.v.p.
Groet ook aan Renate.

Je ouwe partner in Crime,
Johannes Rossenaar

Mo:06 41 51 42 71</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keessie-Bassie,</p>
<p>Verdomme Cees, wie schets mijn verbazing,ben je ineens mediadocent.<br />
Leuk!!<br />
Natuurlijk die Noord-Zuidlijn een disaster, maar voor jouw exposure wel lekker!!</p>
<p>Laat als je dit ziet/leest wat horen s.v.p.<br />
Groet ook aan Renate.</p>
<p>Je ouwe partner in Crime,<br />
Johannes Rossenaar</p>
<p>Mo:06 41 51 42 71</p>
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		<title>Comment on Brand to community by using hubs in social networks by Marketing and Social Hubs &#171; Technology Marketing from the Front Line</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marketing and Social Hubs &#171; Technology Marketing from the Front Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]    Marketing and Social&#160;Hubs December 12, 2008   Today a colleague pointed me to an interesting post that talks about Social Hubs and how companies participate in these hubs. I posted a loong comment [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]    Marketing and Social&nbsp;Hubs December 12, 2008   Today a colleague pointed me to an interesting post that talks about Social Hubs and how companies participate in these hubs. I posted a loong comment [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Brand to community by using hubs in social networks by enterprisemobility</title>
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		<dc:creator>enterprisemobility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think marketers will continue to do traditional marketing and advertising. But participation in social networks will be part of the marketing toolbox, and in many cases more important than traditional marketing. Jackie Huba (author of Citizen Marketers) calls this the fifth ‘marketing P’ – Participation.

You bring a really interesting point – maybe not explicitly: the social networks exist, and sites like Twitter and Linked in are simply tools where the people that form the hub meet. It is like a group of friends who can meet at a bar, at a sporting event or at a friend’s house. The group of friends is the social network itself and the bar or venue is the tool they use to interact. The community exists independent of the tool.

Like you, I am a firm believer in the power of social + enterprise content (what you call user generated content with professional content) and that integration deliver tremendous value to end users. But I have a different vision on how to get there: I don’t think marketers should moderate or editorialize social media. As you say, it is about trust and transparency – but this requires authenticity and personal conversations. The marketer can present both social and professional content labeling each as such: “here is the unedited content from the community, and here is our official corporate content”.

We did this at Microsoft where in our web properties and some of our products a search query will produce the official company “editorial” results, content from Microsoft bloggers and answers from the community. Social media is integrated on the website, technical support, marketing activities and also in the product Help system. Even the technical documentation is now a wiki.

Measurement tools and paradigms need to shift. It is not enough to measure community engagement or activity, maybe we should measure trust and sentiment. Maybe even loyalty. It is about winning hearts and minds.

About your question of how to identify the hubs? I see this as one of the intrinsic values of social media: it fosters the gravitation of people with similar goals and interests towards areas where they can have a conversation. Social media is enabling conversations across geographies, cultures and organizational boundaries. 

A relevant quote from the Cluetrain Manifesto written almost 10 years ago:

“Markets are conversations. Their members communicate in language that is natural, open, honest, direct, funny and often shocking…the human voice is unmistakably genuine... Corporate firewalls have kept smart employees in and smart markets out. It&#039;s going to cause real pain to tear those walls down. But the result will be a new kind of conversation. And it will be the most exciting conversation business has ever engaged in.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think marketers will continue to do traditional marketing and advertising. But participation in social networks will be part of the marketing toolbox, and in many cases more important than traditional marketing. Jackie Huba (author of Citizen Marketers) calls this the fifth ‘marketing P’ – Participation.</p>
<p>You bring a really interesting point – maybe not explicitly: the social networks exist, and sites like Twitter and Linked in are simply tools where the people that form the hub meet. It is like a group of friends who can meet at a bar, at a sporting event or at a friend’s house. The group of friends is the social network itself and the bar or venue is the tool they use to interact. The community exists independent of the tool.</p>
<p>Like you, I am a firm believer in the power of social + enterprise content (what you call user generated content with professional content) and that integration deliver tremendous value to end users. But I have a different vision on how to get there: I don’t think marketers should moderate or editorialize social media. As you say, it is about trust and transparency – but this requires authenticity and personal conversations. The marketer can present both social and professional content labeling each as such: “here is the unedited content from the community, and here is our official corporate content”.</p>
<p>We did this at Microsoft where in our web properties and some of our products a search query will produce the official company “editorial” results, content from Microsoft bloggers and answers from the community. Social media is integrated on the website, technical support, marketing activities and also in the product Help system. Even the technical documentation is now a wiki.</p>
<p>Measurement tools and paradigms need to shift. It is not enough to measure community engagement or activity, maybe we should measure trust and sentiment. Maybe even loyalty. It is about winning hearts and minds.</p>
<p>About your question of how to identify the hubs? I see this as one of the intrinsic values of social media: it fosters the gravitation of people with similar goals and interests towards areas where they can have a conversation. Social media is enabling conversations across geographies, cultures and organizational boundaries. </p>
<p>A relevant quote from the Cluetrain Manifesto written almost 10 years ago:</p>
<p>“Markets are conversations. Their members communicate in language that is natural, open, honest, direct, funny and often shocking…the human voice is unmistakably genuine&#8230; Corporate firewalls have kept smart employees in and smart markets out. It&#8217;s going to cause real pain to tear those walls down. But the result will be a new kind of conversation. And it will be the most exciting conversation business has ever engaged in.”</p>
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		<title>Comment on Earning logics. Building a comprehensive list by Timber Haaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timber Haaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kees,

The STOF-workshop that we did with you was much enjoyed by us as well. As a matter of fact the STOF book that you mention is heading your way right now. Some more info can be found on www.stofmethod.com - the place where we want to communicate about STOF developments and practices, and where we hope to start a STOF commmunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kees,</p>
<p>The STOF-workshop that we did with you was much enjoyed by us as well. As a matter of fact the STOF book that you mention is heading your way right now. Some more info can be found on <a href="http://www.stofmethod.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.stofmethod.com</a> &#8211; the place where we want to communicate about STOF developments and practices, and where we hope to start a STOF commmunity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on GRATIS. A taxonomy of the ‘FREECONOMY’. by Komang</title>
		<link>http://futurecase.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/gratis-a-taxonomy-of-the-%e2%80%98freeconomy%e2%80%99/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Komang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article,can u link exchange with my blog?Thanks be4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article,can u link exchange with my blog?Thanks be4.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 180˚. Eureka, a thought about changing consumer behavior by voidd</title>
		<link>http://futurecase.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/180%cb%9a-eureka-a-thought-about-changing-consumer-behavior/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>voidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what about Crowdsourcing. Having public online chats with your audience in which they can tell their wants, needs and complaints. Let costumers invent their own products! Saves time in the creative departments, too. All you have to do is make the product and listen to the customer. The problem in this is ego. From an ego point of view, it is not so nice to produce something that somebody else has invented. It&#039;s nicer to have something produced that you can call your own invention. Thus, this is the link between marketing and (in spiritual, eastern terms) Buddishm or (in scientific, western terms) Quantum physics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what about Crowdsourcing. Having public online chats with your audience in which they can tell their wants, needs and complaints. Let costumers invent their own products! Saves time in the creative departments, too. All you have to do is make the product and listen to the customer. The problem in this is ego. From an ego point of view, it is not so nice to produce something that somebody else has invented. It&#8217;s nicer to have something produced that you can call your own invention. Thus, this is the link between marketing and (in spiritual, eastern terms) Buddishm or (in scientific, western terms) Quantum physics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 180˚. Eureka, a thought about changing consumer behavior by voidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>voidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wat about this= Is this a game, or is it marketing?

www.apenkooi.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wat about this= Is this a game, or is it marketing?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apenkooi.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.apenkooi.com</a></p>
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